1442 Barong

Bill M · 9th January 2019, 05:04 AM

I just fell in love with this when I first held it. Feels like an extension of my arm. Well-balanced, light, serious even with a thick blade. The unusual handle holds very well. One of my favorites.

Robert · 9th January 2019, 06:33 AM

Beautiful barong Bill. This piece has a shandigan blade correct? If not too much trouble could you post the measurements to go with the photos for later reference. One last question, do you plan to reset the blade to the correct depth in the hilt or will you leave it as is? My congratulations on this wonderful addition to your collection.

Best,
Robert

kai · 9th January 2019, 11:05 AM

Hello Bill,

I'm with Robert - very nice Yakan barong! Also the scabbard looks genuine. Any age guess for the latter?

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This piece has a shandigan blade correct?

If this has a thickened edge, it appears to be well worn; this blade may also be one of those with originally less taper from back to edge and, thus, more distinct sharpened edge. Kinda semi-shandigan?

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If not too much trouble could you post the measurements to go with the photos for later reference.

Yes, please!

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One last question, do you plan to reset the blade to the correct depth in the hilt or will you leave it as is?

Horn is prone to shrinkage; I'm not sure this is the only reason though.

I agree that it would be good to try to set the blade (and ferrules) if it can be done without invasive actions.

Regards,
Kai

Bill M · 9th January 2019, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert

Beautiful barong Bill. This piece has a shandigan blade correct? If not too much trouble could you post the measurements to go with the photos for later reference. One last question, do you plan to reset the blade to the correct depth in the hilt or will you leave it as is? My congratulations on this wonderful addition to your collection.

Best,
Robert

I will post measurements, soon. I would like to reset the blade, but not sure how to do this.

Thank you for your compliments.

David · 9th January 2019, 05:10 PM

Nice barong Bill. I like the blade quite a bit, but i would not consider this a "shandigan" blade myself. Other's mileage may vary.

Bill M · 9th January 2019, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Nice barong Bill. I like the blade quite a bit, but i would not consider this a "shandigan" blade myself. Other's mileage may vary.

David, just had a moment to comment. I would not all it a shandigan. I think this one is shandigan

David · 10th January 2019, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill M

David, just had a moment to comment. I would not all it a shandigan. I think this one is shandigan

That's what i thought. Does yours have a sharpened top edge at all?

Robert · 10th January 2019, 05:23 AM

I was not aware that a shandigan blade required a sharpened top edge. I was going by the protrusion on the bottom of the blade next to the hilt and that the blade itself looked to have a double bevel. Here is a photo of one of the two examples I have in my collection. I do not believe that I have ever taken ones of the other, but if I have I will post a couple of it as well.

Best,
Robert

P.S.
Neither of the examples I have include a sharpened area (false edge) on the top of the blade as shown in Bill's last photo.

kai · 10th January 2019, 06:29 AM

Yup, Robert is correct: a shandigan does not need to have parts of the back of the blade sharpened!

Aside from the strong edge bevel, I‘d only look for a more or less distinct fuller between the bevel and the back of the blade.

Regards,
Kai

9th January 2019, 05:04 AM	#1
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	1442 Barong I just fell in love with this when I first held it. Feels like an extension of my arm. Well-balanced, light, serious even with a thick blade. The unusual handle holds very well. One of my favorites. Attached Images

9th January 2019, 06:33 AM	#2
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Beautiful barong Bill. This piece has a shandigan blade correct? If not too much trouble could you post the measurements to go with the photos for later reference. One last question, do you plan to reset the blade to the correct depth in the hilt or will you leave it as is? My congratulations on this wonderful addition to your collection. Best, Robert Attached Images

10th January 2019, 05:23 AM	#8
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	I was not aware that a shandigan blade required a sharpened top edge. I was going by the protrusion on the bottom of the blade next to the hilt and that the blade itself looked to have a double bevel. Here is a photo of one of the two examples I have in my collection. I do not believe that I have ever taken ones of the other, but if I have I will post a couple of it as well. Best, Robert P.S. Neither of the examples I have include a sharpened area (false edge) on the top of the blade as shown in Bill's last photo. Attached Images Last edited by Robert; 10th January 2019 at 05:48 AM.

9th January 2019, 05:10 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,115	Nice barong Bill. I like the blade quite a bit, but i would not consider this a "shandigan" blade myself. Other's mileage may vary.

10th January 2019, 06:29 AM	#9
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Yup, Robert is correct: a shandigan does not need to have parts of the back of the blade sharpened! Aside from the strong edge bevel, I‘d only look for a more or less distinct fuller between the bevel and the back of the blade. Regards, Kai