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25th November 2011, 07:02 PM
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Kindjal with inscribed blade
Hi!!
Can anyone give me any pointers as to where this Kindjal comes from? Its quite a small one but with nice inscription. Any ideas as to date? Many thanks |
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27th November 2011, 10:52 AM
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Any ideas? (Just pushing the Thread back to the top)
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27th November 2011, 06:34 PM
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1) the Arabic script, apparently it's not Arabic language  2) "Kindjal" ottoman, and the handle looks "Daguestan" fashion ... any way ... countries from Central-Europe pleasant Kindjal, but with a scabbard, could be better  à + Dom |
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27th November 2011, 06:34 PM
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Hi Templar,
While presuming this is a relatively modern (late 19th-into 20th) kindjhal from Caucasian regions, again presuming Chechnya or Daghestan, I await more experienced observations from the experts. Meanwhile, I am intrigued not just by your interesting choice of sobriquet, but your apparant widely eclectic field of collecting. Can you say more on your primary interests? All the best, Jim |
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27th November 2011, 07:07 PM
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Turkey ( no relation to the dinner 3 days ago:-))
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27th November 2011, 08:06 PM
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Hi. Jim Im more than happy to discuss my interests. I collect all kinds of weapons.
I have quite a few Kukri and African Spears along with items from Native American Tomahawks to Iron Age Irish Swords. Your welcome to PM me if you wish to know more. All the best |
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27th November 2011, 08:42 PM
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Also, while awaiting information or identification from those well informed on these, my curiosity continues to overwhelm me. You posted a Spanish sword on the European forum......still interested ?
You double posted an Indian khanjhar, same dagger under different headings, whassup? |
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29th November 2011, 12:12 PM
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Hi,
The inscription is Turkish and also a sarcastic one too. It lost some of its edge in the translation though. Oyun etme kama ile yanarsın Mum yakub cerrahı ararsın Don't play/mess with kama (meaning kindjal) you will get hurt Then you will need to light a candle and look for a surgeon |
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29th November 2011, 04:20 PM
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Salam aleikum my Dear Friend
quick "user's guide" ...  He did not lacked humor at this time, it's funny  à + Dom |
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29th November 2011, 09:49 PM
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Thats excellent. Many thanks for the translation!!!
All the best |
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29th November 2011, 10:33 PM
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It also seems to me a criticism to the surgeons of those days P.S. In Turkish, the idiom of lighting a candle and search for something with it in the dark means vigorously looking for something difficult to find. |
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30th November 2011, 12:06 AM
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- in France "look for the 5 legs sheep" - in English "look for the white elephant" ... as well as the surgeons was scarce à + Dom |
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30th November 2011, 05:30 AM
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Am I correct in assuming the pronunciation of "yanarsin" and "ararsin" rhyme? If so, then maybe the choice of a surgeon is simply a convenient literary device?
Either way, a beautiful kindjal / kama with an awfully cool inscription. 
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