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|  27th April 2012, 04:15 PM | #1 | 
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				 |  A Nice Brace of 'Military' Wheellock Saddle Pistols, of Suhl Type, ca. 1635-40 
			
			From the heyday of the Thirty Years War, retaining their original iron-capped ramrods; sold at Probus, Stockholm. As there are minor differences, e.g. on the wheel brackets, they do not form a genuine pair but should be called 'two of some similar though different series'. m Last edited by Matchlock; 27th April 2012 at 08:35 PM. | 
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|  27th April 2012, 04:29 PM | #2 | 
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			And here is what a characteristic Thirty Years War period saddle holster looked like, this fine sample preserved in virtually 'untouched' condition and retaining both its top cover lid and side bag, a wooden container (damaged) inserted, drilled for four paper cartridges. On the bottom of that cartridge container a piece of paper was found printed with the date 1621, still containing some black powder. m | 
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|  27th April 2012, 04:30 PM | #3 | 
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			One last close-up.
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|  27th April 2012, 09:36 PM | #4 | 
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			A similar Suhl marked pistol of West German type, 1640's, the ramrod tip incorrectly replaced by what seems to be bone, instead of the correct iron finial (Setzerkopf); sold Christie's. m | 
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|  27th April 2012, 09:44 PM | #5 | 
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			And, for stylistic comparison, a Dutch holster pistol of the 1670's:  the plain iron butt band that was characteristic of the 1620's-40's now developed to form a complete cap with long spur reaching towards the rear end of the lock, the forestock characteristically carved, the ramrod of typical late-17th c. bulbous shape, an original iron reiforcing ring, analogous to that on the fore end of the stock, possibly missing from its tip; the trigger probably a replacement. m Last edited by Matchlock; 28th April 2012 at 07:41 PM. | 
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|  28th April 2012, 03:39 PM | #6 | 
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			For more on Thirty Years War period wheellock holster pistols, icluding a perfect firing copy built by a friend of mine, see http://www.engerisser.de/Bewaffnung/...ockpistol.html http://www.engerisser.de/Bewaffnung/...Wheellock.html http://www.engerisser.de/Bewaffnung/...spistole2.html The latter link, on a ca. 1640 pistol, will not open in English I am afraid. m | 
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