![]()  | 
	
| 
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#1 | 
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: Mar 2005 
				Location: canada 
				
				
					Posts: 90
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			hi, i was wondering whether these two swords are ottoman turkish to begin with then also if they are 18 or 19th century, i don't have much information on them, no markings. the sheaths seem like to good to be for that period.  any information and help would be appreciated
		 
		
		
		
			 | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#2 | 
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
			Join Date: Feb 2005 
				Location: Clearwater, Florida 
				
				
					Posts: 371
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			Any photos of the entire sword, including the blade? 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	While nicely decorated, my impression of just the hilt is that it's so clean that it looks recently manufactured. Mike  | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#3 | 
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: Mar 2005 
				Location: canada 
				
				
					Posts: 90
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			here are two more photos of the whole sword including the sheath, any help would be appreciated , thanks again
		 
		
		
		
			 | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#4 | 
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: Dec 2004 
				Location: Athens Greece 
				
				
					Posts: 479
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			It is Turkish. No earlier than late 19th century, early 20th.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	I think it was a kind of officers sword in Ottoman army, but for certain rank/corps.  | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#5 | 
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: Mar 2005 
				Location: canada 
				
				
					Posts: 90
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			thanks for your information and help.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
![]()  | 
	
	
		
  | 
	
		
  |