Russian Khyber knife

ariel · 17th April 2016, 02:27 AM

It is finished on e-bay, so I am within my rights to post the pics.

Here is a classical Afghani Khyber knife ( Selaava), with all bells and whistles. No doubt about it being old and authentic.

However, its blade bears a clear mark of the Russian Zlatoust Weapon Factory.

Does anyone have any other examples of Russia-made blades of such a distinct profile among the Afghani Khybers in the 19th century?

ausjulius · 17th April 2016, 05:17 AM

im no expert but id say blade is to crude form something form zlatoust.
as smiths do in that area.. id say they may have added a stamp they have seen to add value to their product.. could be wrong.. but ..

ariel · 17th April 2016, 09:01 AM

That's what I thought too, but I found identical marks on items coming from old Russia. Did the Afghanis forge a special stamp? If so, that would not be the only example, and that was exactly what I was asking. Or is it known that Zlatoust made a special order of the blades?

mahratt · 17th April 2016, 12:02 PM

It would be interesting to see the same stamp on the authentic Russian items from Zlatoust.

I think that in this particular case we are dealing with an old Khyber knife on which someone recently put fake stamp Zlatoust.

mariusgmioc · 17th April 2016, 01:25 PM

Faking such a detailed stamp, and to this level of quality is not an easy task.

mahratt · 17th April 2016, 01:36 PM

The stamp is not very neat . If we compare with the authentic

17th April 2016, 02:27 AM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Russian Khyber knife It is finished on e-bay, so I am within my rights to post the pics. Here is a classical Afghani Khyber knife ( Selaava), with all bells and whistles. No doubt about it being old and authentic. However, its blade bears a clear mark of the Russian Zlatoust Weapon Factory. Does anyone have any other examples of Russia-made blades of such a distinct profile among the Afghani Khybers in the 19th century? Attached Images

17th April 2016, 05:17 AM	#2
ausjulius Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: musorian territory Posts: 476	im no expert but id say blade is to crude form something form zlatoust. as smiths do in that area.. id say they may have added a stamp they have seen to add value to their product.. could be wrong.. but ..

17th April 2016, 09:01 AM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	That's what I thought too, but I found identical marks on items coming from old Russia. Did the Afghanis forge a special stamp? If so, that would not be the only example, and that was exactly what I was asking. Or is it known that Zlatoust made a special order of the blades?

17th April 2016, 12:02 PM	#4
mahratt Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Russia Posts: 1,042	It would be interesting to see the same stamp on the authentic Russian items from Zlatoust. I think that in this particular case we are dealing with an old Khyber knife on which someone recently put fake stamp Zlatoust.

17th April 2016, 01:25 PM	#5
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,912	Faking such a detailed stamp, and to this level of quality is not an easy task.

17th April 2016, 01:36 PM	#6
mahratt Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Russia Posts: 1,042	The stamp is not very neat . If we compare with the authentic