Freaky face

Gavin Nugent · 26th January 2012, 02:35 PM

And I thought the Mandau were the only ones with real freaky faces...this is from a old Javanese Pedang Lurus...can anyone identify this fella in Javanese Mythos or Wayang?

Atlantia · 27th January 2012, 09:57 PM

He's fantastic. What's it made of?

The style is so universal isn't it? Reminds me of Roman designs and medieval for that matter...
Really nice mate, can we see the rest?

Atlantia · 28th January 2012, 05:24 PM

Or ancient Greek for that matter. Do you suppose there is any connection?
I know some asian designs and the green man are thought by some to be descended from a single source. Could your 'freaky face' be a descendant of the Greek Gorgon?

Gavin Nugent · 28th January 2012, 11:42 PM

Thanks Gene,

It is an uncanny likeness in every manner except the wild moustache and hair, however, he has been confirmed as Rakshasa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakshasa

Thanks Michael.

Gav

Rick · 29th January 2012, 12:55 AM

Here you go, Gav .

Gavin Nugent · 29th January 2012, 01:26 AM

Connections are always interesting rabbit warrens to go down Gene and one I am unsure of....the Greek Key relief borders have always had me pondering too...Greek influenced Chinese or Chinese influenced Greek...one of those chicken egg quandaries...

Thanks Rick, what it off?

A.alnakkas · 4th February 2012, 03:38 PM

What freaky faces I must say..

Rick · 4th February 2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by freebooter

Connections are always interesting rabbit warrens to go down Gene and one I am unsure of....the Greek Key relief borders have always had me pondering too...Greek influenced Chinese or Chinese influenced Greek...one of those chicken egg quandaries...

Thanks Rick, what it off?

Sorry Gave, I missed your response .
That is a keris handle; I suspect that your pommel may be a recycled part of the same item .
Herewith a quick shot of the fellow .

Gavin Nugent · 4th February 2012, 05:32 PM

Thanks Rick. The freaky face is custom, not modified Keris. The human hair topknot is a nice touch to add to the freaky

I suspect it is from the same region and workshop as that seen on page 94 of Zonneveld and likely the same age.

Rick · 4th February 2012, 06:42 PM

We must have different copies of this book .

Gavin Nugent · 5th February 2012, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

We must have different copies of this book .

I wouldn't think so....I am only referring to the type and quality of work, not the freaky face

Rick · 5th February 2012, 02:03 AM

How am I to tell when you show only a picture of the hilt edge on mate ?

I'm not seing much of a similarity; pg 94 .
How about a picture of the whole thing .

26th January 2012, 02:35 PM	#1
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Freaky face And I thought the Mandau were the only ones with real freaky faces...this is from a old Javanese Pedang Lurus...can anyone identify this fella in Javanese Mythos or Wayang? Attached Images

28th January 2012, 05:24 PM	#3
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Or ancient Greek for that matter. Do you suppose there is any connection? I know some asian designs and the green man are thought by some to be descended from a single source. Could your 'freaky face' be a descendant of the Greek Gorgon? Attached Images Last edited by Atlantia; 28th January 2012 at 07:56 PM.

28th January 2012, 11:42 PM	#4
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Thanks Gene, It is an uncanny likeness in every manner except the wild moustache and hair, however, he has been confirmed as Rakshasa. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakshasa Thanks Michael. Gav Attached Images

29th January 2012, 12:55 AM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Here you go, Gav . Attached Images

4th February 2012, 05:32 PM	#9
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Thanks Rick. The freaky face is custom, not modified Keris. The human hair topknot is a nice touch to add to the freaky I suspect it is from the same region and workshop as that seen on page 94 of Zonneveld and likely the same age. Attached Images

27th January 2012, 09:57 PM	#2
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	He's fantastic. What's it made of? The style is so universal isn't it? Reminds me of Roman designs and medieval for that matter... Really nice mate, can we see the rest?

29th January 2012, 01:26 AM	#6
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Connections are always interesting rabbit warrens to go down Gene and one I am unsure of....the Greek Key relief borders have always had me pondering too...Greek influenced Chinese or Chinese influenced Greek...one of those chicken egg quandaries... Thanks Rick, what it off?

4th February 2012, 03:38 PM	#7
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	What freaky faces I must say..

4th February 2012, 06:42 PM	#10
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	We must have different copies of this book .

5th February 2012, 02:03 AM	#12
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	How am I to tell when you show only a picture of the hilt edge on mate ? I'm not seing much of a similarity; pg 94 . How about a picture of the whole thing . Attached Images Last edited by Rick; 5th February 2012 at 02:23 AM.