30th August 2010, 10:07 PM | #1 |
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Reference Tools for South East Asian Edged Weapons
Hello all,
I have an interest in South East Asian edged weapons particularly Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines. I am trying to locate approx 3-5 books for a reference toolbox. So far I have the following: I have access to "Moro Swords" by Robert Cato. I own a copy of "Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago" by van Zonneveld. I was about to track down a copy of Gardner's "Keris and Other Malay Weapons" but the reviews/advice didn't make me think the book should be in the top 3 for reference/research. There is also a post in this forum in regards to a book to be published by Tim Rodgers that is currently being reviewed by some of the forum members. Then there is the online reference tools such as this site. If anyone could point me in the right direction for definitive reference books I would be most thankful. |
30th August 2010, 10:26 PM | #2 |
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Hi Imas,
Its always impressive to see someone with a serious approach to learning more on a certain field of weapons, and the two references you already have are of course key. I would note that the core of knowledge here on these kinds of weapons is phenomenal, and if you use the search feature you will find important threads with tons of information. Also, when you first pull up 'Ethnographic Sword Forum' , instead of going to forums, scroll down and you will see articles written by members here and resourced material such as plates from Kriegers outstanding Smithsonian work (1926). The work by Ian Greaves, Mark Bowditch and Andrew Winston is amazing in thier "Swords of Continental Southeast Asia" which is among the material in these links, as well as Mark's "Dha Research Archive". Until the work done by these gentlemen, there were virtually no resources on these weapons were available in the west, and this was seminal work entailing years of experience in handling and acquiring examples of dha. All best regards, Jim |
31st August 2010, 06:56 AM | #3 |
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Hello Imas
It has some faults, but I would still recomend Stone's Glossary. Regards Roy |
31st August 2010, 08:35 AM | #4 |
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Hi and welcome to the Forum. You might also try to get hold of a copy of The History of Steel in Eastern Asia. This was published in LARGE book form as a catalogue of exhibits at the Macau Museum of Art. Well worth having in my opinion if you can find a copy.Your best bet would be to contact Antonio Cejunior, who is a member here by sending him a PM. If he can not help you in acquiring a copy, he may be in a position to advise where to try.
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31st August 2010, 09:21 AM | #5 | |
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Excellent call Roy! I've gotten so used to having that as a standard that I forget to mention it Although written in 1930s , it serves as the spine of any library on serious arms study, and certainly has flaws from nearly 8 decades of new findings and subsequent research....but essential benchmark just the same. |
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31st August 2010, 04:00 PM | #6 |
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History of Steel has sold out .
Try Amazon, Abebooks, etc . I have 3 copies; but they will go with the weapons I contributed to the exhibition . |
31st August 2010, 11:14 PM | #7 |
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Thanks everyone.
I'm still trying to locate the articles linked from this site. I'll start hunting around for "The History of Steel in Eastern Asia" and Stone's Glossary. Much appreciated. |
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In any event, at this point, I hope that our Thai and Burmese colleagues "on the ground" in SEA will someday publish a definitive work. In the interim, I suspect one of my co-authors may be quietly continuing his research. Best, Andrew |
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1st September 2010, 05:36 AM | #10 |
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Oh, and I still love Stone. Yes, it is terribly outdated and, in some instances, ridiculously wrong. However, it deserves a place in every arms/armour library. In fact, I submit if one could only purchase one book on the topic, this should be it. The illustrations alone justify the purchase.
This is an old thread worth looking at: http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001722.html |
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