11th November 2017, 04:36 PM | #1 |
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signed katana for id and discussion please
I have recently acquired this katana and wondered if anyone could help me with the maker of the blade , the sword is in very good condition and shows a good hamon , any info would be much appreciated
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11th November 2017, 04:42 PM | #2 |
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Hello,
The photo of the nakago with the signature is quite dark making the signature hardly readable. Also please note the writing is on vertical, with the mekugi-ana (hole for the mekugi) at the top, so the photo of the nakago should be rotated 90 degrees clockwise. You may want to address this question to the Nihonto community from the Nihonto Message Board forum. http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/index.php Good luck! PS: All I can say is that it appears to be a good sword in WWII Japanese army Gunto Koshirae. |
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12th November 2017, 08:49 PM | #4 |
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I got this result after turning and using some filter.
To be honest I have no idea if this is the right side up yet. Using paper and a pencil would probably be helpfull. + posting on the Nihonto forum Love the sword. is the tassel Original ? Best regards, Willem |
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It is better, but is upside down. Unfortunately, my knowledge ends here as I cannot read Japanese. Your idea about using pencil and paper is very good as it is used by the Japanese themselves to make the oshigata of the blade. It may give a much clearer view of the signature. Chief, make sure you do NOT clean the nakago as cleaning may dramatically reduce the value of the sword (since the aspect of the rust is very important for experts to establish the age of the sword and whether the signature is genuine or not). |
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12th November 2017, 10:28 PM | #6 |
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Sorry,
Now I understand that Vhiefheadknocker already edited his post and added a picture in the correct rotation.... |
13th November 2017, 05:30 AM | #7 |
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The signature is very dark, I'll make a guess at it. "NOSHU (no) JU SEKI KANESUMI? The last kanji SUMI could also be TSUGU or TSUNE??? just not clear enough.
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14th November 2017, 09:48 PM | #8 |
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showa mark
after looking at the signature closely I have found a showa mark just visable under the rust ,which I think shows that it was made for ww2 and so not an old blade
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Last edited by Robert; 15th November 2017 at 03:19 PM. Reason: Possible value of an item is not to be discussed as per forum rules. |
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Very nice sword btw. Last edited by Robert; 15th November 2017 at 03:21 PM. |
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15th November 2017, 08:17 PM | #13 |
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Let's say it is in a desired condition for WW2 collectors.
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16th November 2017, 12:15 AM | #14 |
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And if gendaito, hen it would be considered nihonto and not machine made military, which would raise the value considerably.
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16th November 2017, 08:04 AM | #15 |
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As a general rule gendaito (hand forged) don't have a Showa or Seki stamp, they can have a star or a tan stamp & a few others. I suggest your sword is a machine made gunto with oil temper, still a nice condition sword.
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