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Old 20th January 2024, 04:39 AM   #1
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Default Ottoman karabela around year 1650-1700 or?

Hello, what do you think, is this ottoman karabela from year 1650-1700, or is a 19 century made “ottoman karabela”
A guy is selling it, i took a look but im in doubt, handle looks all genuin, black horn steel rivers with patina, brass crossguard, but blade, it is tempered, and battle blade but top part of a blade with yelman is very strange, blade almost has no distal taper, it is 100-150 grama heavyer than i would say it should be.
I found that same shape of top part of a blade on line and in museums and all of them 4 total are ottoman karabela from 17 century 1600+ blade, they look tje same.
Scabbard is wood covered in leather which is glued, no turkish ziper, but to my knowing that is the way turkish swords before 1700 were made.
If some one can tell me more, please! Do!
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Old 20th January 2024, 08:30 AM   #2
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Old 20th January 2024, 07:39 PM   #3
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Sorry to say, nothing about this sword is 17th or even 18th century, nor Ottoman.
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Old 20th January 2024, 07:57 PM   #4
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Thank you for your coment, but could you please specify why do you think soo, becouse of what?
It would be very helpfull.
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Old 30th January 2024, 06:40 PM   #5
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No one?
If any one knows something about this type of sword (with arguments and explained please, not just say it is not or it is that, but specify why and becouse of what).
I saw similar type of yalman, it is very rare, in all archives i saw less than 10 swords with it, and all are in ottoman karabela category.
For this one i suspect it is ottoman karabela made in bosnia, for ottoman atack on sinj 1715.
But…
In pictures are similar style yalman.
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Old 3rd February 2024, 10:03 AM   #6
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Some more positive discussion on this would be helpful. Anyone please?
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