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Old 1st May 2015, 08:07 PM   #1
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THERE IS QUITE A RICH VARIETY OF AXES IN INDIA FROM SEVERAL TRIBES, REGIONS AND EMPIRES. SO I THINK IT WOULD MAKE AN INTERESTING REFERENCE AND HOPEFULLY EVERYONE CAN PITCH IN WITH SOME EXAMPLES.
#1. 19TH. CENTURY INDIA WITH EBONY SHAFT.
#2. CHOTA NAGPUR INDIA, 36 X 9 INCHES
#3. INDIA AX
#4. & #5. INDIA BULLOWA AX WITH INTERESTING PATTERN TO BLADE
#6. INDIA TABAR AXES AND A SHISHPAR MACE
#7. INDO PERSIAN AX ALL METAL, 22.5 IN. LONG
#8. & #9 KHOND BEAKED WAR HAMMER SIMILAR TO ZAGHNAL
#10. KHOND REGION, CHOTA NAGPUR
#11. KHOND REGION CHOTA NAGPUR AX VARIATIONS
#12. KHOND WAR AX INDIA
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Old 1st May 2015, 08:34 PM   #2
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A FEW MORE TO GET IT OFF TO A GOOD START.
#1. INDIA AX
#2. INDIA AX BLADE 12 INCHES ACROSS
#3. NORTH INDIA WAR AX
#4. BULLOVA AX
#5. INDO PERSIAN AX?
#6. INDIA BULLOVA
#7. SOUTH INDIA TABAR AX 18TH CENTURY
#8 & #9. SAFAVID AX
#10. AX
#11. AX WILD TRIBES OF INDIA 32.5 INCHES LONG
#12. INDO PERSIAN AX.
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Great thread Barry. Personally, I am not a big fan of the "pot metal" ceremonial axes, but you have shown some other lovely examples here!
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I TEND TO PREFER THE REAL BATTLE AXES BUT THE FANCY DECORATIVE PARADE AXES OR THOSE GOLD AND SILVER INLAYED ONES ARE NICE IN THEIR OWN WAY TOO.
#1. A SMALL ORNATE AX FROM INDIA.
#2 THRU #8 VARIOUS INDIA OR INDO-PERSIAN AXES NO MEASUREMENTS.
#9. INDO-PERSIAN SADDLE AX 30 INCH LONG

ALL COMMENTS, CORRECTIONS AND INFORMATION ON THESE ARE WELCOME.
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number 2 Sudan
the four last ones Persian, even Qajar
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Great thread Barry. Personally, I am not a big fan of the "pot metal" ceremonial axes, but you have shown some other lovely examples here!
"Pot metal" ceremonial axes, are some being shown?
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A FEW MORE TO GET IT OFF TO A GOOD START.
#1. INDIA AX
#2. INDIA AX BLADE 12 INCHES ACROSS
#3. NORTH INDIA WAR AX
#4. BULLOVA AX
#5. INDO PERSIAN AX?
#6. INDIA BULLOVA
#7. SOUTH INDIA TABAR AX 18TH CENTURY
#8 & #9. SAFAVID AX
#10. AX
#11. AX WILD TRIBES OF INDIA 32.5 INCHES LONG
#12. INDO PERSIAN AX.
Is this axe Indian? The description on pinterest says:"Undulated-edged axe-blade, hollow at the back, engraved with cartouches depicting busts among foliage; crescent-shaped beak; wooden haft with opening at the handle. Europe - 19th Century".
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THANKS FOR POSTING THE NICE EXAMPLES TRAJAN AND KRONCKEW ,QUITE A NICE SELECTION. ESTCRH I CAN'T SAY IF THE AX IS FROM INDIA FOR SURE BUT I DOUBT IT IS FROM EUROPE UNLESS IT WAS MADE UP TO LOOK LIKE A ORIENTAL AX WHEN SUCH THINGS WERE POPULAR THERE. THE MAN WITH TURBAN AND THE CRESCENT MOON LOOKS LIKE IT SHOWS THE ISLAMIC INFLUENCE OF PERSIA OR PERHAPS THE MOORS. I AM NOT SURE WHERE I GOT THE PICTURE BUT IT ENDED UP AS INDO PERSIAN IN MY FILES. SO PERHAPS IT DOES NOT BELONG IN THIS POST NICE TO HAVE A GOOD LARGE PICTURE OF IT TO LOOK AT ANYWAY. THANKS.
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are zaghnols axes? i think they are generally lumped in with them.
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are zaghnols axes? i think they are generally lumped in with them.
I put them with war hammers/war picks but why not with axes here? Then there are the tabar-zaghnal.
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Suspect India 18th century.
Heavy ax.
Wootz head.
Stem wood with schagrin leather .
In wood a reinforcement of iron.
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ESTCRH I CAN'T SAY IF THE AX IS FROM INDIA FOR SURE BUT I DOUBT IT IS FROM EUROPE UNLESS IT WAS MADE UP TO LOOK LIKE A ORIENTAL AX WHEN SUCH THINGS WERE POPULAR THERE. THE MAN WITH TURBAN AND THE CRESCENT MOON LOOKS LIKE IT SHOWS THE ISLAMIC INFLUENCE OF PERSIA OR PERHAPS THE MOORS. I AM NOT SURE WHERE I GOT THE PICTURE BUT IT ENDED UP AS INDO PERSIAN IN MY FILES. SO PERHAPS IT DOES NOT BELONG IN THIS POST NICE TO HAVE A GOOD LARGE PICTURE OF IT TO LOOK AT ANYWAY. THANKS.
Here is a link to the auction were it was sold and the full description.
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An axe of the miner's guild Undulated-edged axe-blade, hollow at the back, engraved with cartouches depicting busts among foliage; crescent-shaped beak; wooden haft with opening at the handle.
dimensions: height 52.5 cm.
provenance: Europe
dating: 19th Century
http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lo...1-c-83abed681d
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IT APPEARS TO BE A POT METAL WALL HANGER MADE FOR DECOR IT DOESN'T HAVE AN EDGE AS FAR AS I CAN SEE.
IT DOES BRING UP THE QUESTION ARE SUCH ITEMS ETHNOGRAPHIC? THEY ARE USUALLY EITHER REPLICAS OR FANTASY TYPE ITEMS MADE UP TO LOOK LIKE ANTIQUES OR SOMETHING FROM ANOTHER CULTURE, SO IN THAT REGARD ARE NOT ETHNOGRAPHIC. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND THEY WERE POPULAR ITEMS OF DECOR MADE IN EUROPE FOR EUROPEANS DOES THAT MAKE THEM ETHNOGRAPHIC DECOR.
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does afghani tabarzin axes count? - indo-persian? another recent acquisition of mine:
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This is what got me collecting the wide range of weapons and ceremonial items.
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