European sword, for ID please?

migueldiaz · 24th October 2008, 08:01 AM

Hello all,

Can I please request for help in identifying the sword, as to whether it's a repro or a real old piece?

I saw this in an antique shop and I was just wondering whether it deserves any further attention

Thanks in advance!

M ELEY · 24th October 2008, 12:46 PM

It's a WWI era Austrian Army officer's (artillary?) sword. Well, that's the generic description of what it is. It's exact I'm not so sure about. Some of these types predate the war and go back slightly earlier (still in the timeline of Kaiser Wilhelm, circa 1900-1910). I've seen some listed as "Bavarian", some as Prussian and some Austrian. Perhaps someone can pinpoint this pattern down more exactly, but to answer your question, it isn't a repro but a real sword. They are fairly common and show up on eBay now and again...

migueldiaz · 24th October 2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by M ELEY

It's a WWI era Austrian Army officer's (artillary?) sword. Well, that's the generic description of what it is. It's exact I'm not so sure about. Some of these types predate the war and go back slightly earlier (still in the timeline of Kaiser Wilhelm, circa 1900-1910). I've seen some listed as "Bavarian", some as Prussian and some Austrian. Perhaps someone can pinpoint this pattern down more exactly, but to answer your question, it isn't a repro but a real sword. They are fairly common and show up on eBay now and again...

Hi M Eley,

Thanks for the comment!

Amongst "Bavarian", "Austrian", and "Prussian" keyword search on eBay, "Prussian sword" yielded the most number of items closest to the subject blade.

Thanks again.

BBJW · 24th October 2008, 03:14 PM

I believe this is referred to as the 1889 model. German and Austrian officer use thru WW1.

bbjw

TVV · 24th October 2008, 04:30 PM

I agree with BBJW - this is a German "Infanterie Offiziers Degen" (IOD) M1889. To me the monogram on the hilt appears to be that of Kaisre Wilhelm, but I am not 100% sure about this. What is really interesting is how this sword made it to the PI?

Jim McDougall · 24th October 2008, 05:51 PM

The sword is really nice...just the way I like 'em...nicely patinated! and as well agreed , the German M1889.
But!......what bout those '45's !!!!

Thank you for posting this sword Miguel, and the '45's !!!!! what memories!!!

migueldiaz · 25th October 2008, 12:29 PM

BBJW, TVV, & Jim,

Sirs, thanks very much indeed!

24th October 2008, 08:01 AM	#1
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	European sword, for ID please? Hello all, Can I please request for help in identifying the sword, as to whether it's a repro or a real old piece? I saw this in an antique shop and I was just wondering whether it deserves any further attention Thanks in advance! Attached Images

24th October 2008, 12:46 PM	#2
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,077	It's a WWI era Austrian Army officer's (artillary?) sword. Well, that's the generic description of what it is. It's exact I'm not so sure about. Some of these types predate the war and go back slightly earlier (still in the timeline of Kaiser Wilhelm, circa 1900-1910). I've seen some listed as "Bavarian", some as Prussian and some Austrian. Perhaps someone can pinpoint this pattern down more exactly, but to answer your question, it isn't a repro but a real sword. They are fairly common and show up on eBay now and again...

24th October 2008, 03:14 PM	#4
BBJW Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Idaho, USA Posts: 226	I believe this is referred to as the 1889 model. German and Austrian officer use thru WW1. bbjw

24th October 2008, 04:30 PM	#5
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,602	I agree with BBJW - this is a German "Infanterie Offiziers Degen" (IOD) M1889. To me the monogram on the hilt appears to be that of Kaisre Wilhelm, but I am not 100% sure about this. What is really interesting is how this sword made it to the PI?

24th October 2008, 05:51 PM	#6
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,800	The sword is really nice...just the way I like 'em...nicely patinated! and as well agreed , the German M1889. But!......what bout those '45's !!!! Thank you for posting this sword Miguel, and the '45's !!!!! what memories!!!

25th October 2008, 12:29 PM	#7
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	BBJW, TVV, & Jim, Sirs, thanks very much indeed!