Dear gents, thank you all for the information! I completely agree that these are not weapons for wealthy men, especially number 1 seems improvised at the hilt. Some canvas binding with hard resin of some sort. However as a weapon,it feels better than the other one. Number 1 is light and agile, the other feels clumsy more like an axe. Heavy but slow.
Any ideas on the insrciption next to the stamp in number one? which script could this be?
It is funny to see where these came from; next month i'm going to visit Istanbul which is just around the corner
Best regards,
Eric