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Yannis · 14th December 2004, 11:56 PM

Come on Erlikhan!

As far as Turkey owns Konstantinopolis has the right to name it as it wants. In international discusions we can use the word Istanbul but in greek we use the name that we used for 1650 years, and we will not change it because Kemal decided different!

Anyone who can read history can learn how Turks occupied the city on 1943 and what happend to the massive Greek and Armenian population there till 1956!

Macedonia is quite a different story. The state north of Greece got this name in Tito era (after WWII) as a province of Yugoslavia and now it claims that has origins from Great Alexander for God's shake!

If you think that names make history lets talk about Effesos, the city that hosted the Artemis temple, one of the Seven Wanders of the world. You call it Effes.

Or Ikonion, the big Hellenistic and Byzantine city, you call Konya, from where you sell as major tourist attraction the Mevlevi Dervish dancing and you seem to forget that the founder of their order, Mevlana, was not a Turk but a Persian. Would you like from me more examples about forging history and tell lies about national identities to the whole world?

It seems that some "historians" have been expert to make a bright new... past.

14th December 2004, 11:56 PM	#22
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	Forging history Come on Erlikhan! As far as Turkey owns Konstantinopolis has the right to name it as it wants. In international discusions we can use the word Istanbul but in greek we use the name that we used for 1650 years, and we will not change it because Kemal decided different! Anyone who can read history can learn how Turks occupied the city on 1943 and what happend to the massive Greek and Armenian population there till 1956! Macedonia is quite a different story. The state north of Greece got this name in Tito era (after WWII) as a province of Yugoslavia and now it claims that has origins from Great Alexander for God's shake! If you think that names make history lets talk about Effesos, the city that hosted the Artemis temple, one of the Seven Wanders of the world. You call it Effes. Or Ikonion, the big Hellenistic and Byzantine city, you call Konya, from where you sell as major tourist attraction the Mevlevi Dervish dancing and you seem to forget that the founder of their order, Mevlana, was not a Turk but a Persian. Would you like from me more examples about forging history and tell lies about national identities to the whole world? It seems that some "historians" have been expert to make a bright new... past.