I hesitate to add that we are also going around in circles !!
The question of dots is hardly touched here but the general Talisman focuss I think is well being advanced>> The mathematical wizardry involved in astrology we have hardly noted yet it is vast and pulls in all the mysterious Talisman and magical wonders described by my illustration of the Swordsman built from a star chart in Persia in the early11thC.
Shown below;from the Suwar al-kawakib al-thabita of al-Sufi dated1009-10
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