[Klop]

Hello All,

first let me introduce myself, I am Eric from the Netherlands, i've been collecting things that cut since my youth, started serious collecting with Keris but in a few decades also got some other indonesian weapons, japanese, indian, middle eastern...and now some turkish I guess.

I signed up to tap into the collective knowledge about yatagan inscriptions, I recently bought one and cannot translate... I think it is a date - seems 4 digits- but I don't recognise the script, doesn't look like the arabic numerals. If anyone can tell me more about this I 'd be very happy. a reference to the script on the internet, maybe even the makers name from his stamp, region of fabrication, all info is wellcome.

The second piece is larger and heavier and has turkish ribbon forging. Dated 1275 = 1858 or 1859 if my research is correct. Below that may be a makers name? On both sides the ears on the pommel are missing, I wonder how these were originally. Maybe smaller ears or also separate pieces to form a T-handle?

Thanks in advance and best regards,
Eric.