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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey
If we classify a blade as Tuban-Pajajaran, that does not necessarily mean that it originated in the Pajajaran era. The Pajajaran era ended in 1579.
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So what's in a name?
Alan you once mentioned that your teacher Empu Suparman (alm.) would believe without doubt that something classified as Tangguh Pajajaran was made within the borders of that kingdom, during the era it existed.
On the other hand, Empu Pauzan (alm.) thought the opposite, or at least that tangguh wasn't "real".
Like you, I would disagree with neither of them, but I think Empu Suparman's belief here is something I might have to run with and use as a benchmark for the sake of this question. So then what does it mean to classify something as Tuban-Pajajaran? Does it mean: a tuban style blade that, in the beliefs of some, was made during the time of Pajajaran and within the kingdom?