[Kmaddock]

Hi
Totally outside my collecting area
Just picked these two up this afternoon
Would someone kindly give me an identification so I can do a search as to what they are
I am thing a Panang from Indonesia, as the shorter one and the wavey bladed one a Philippine kris. Blade lengths 45 and 60 cm respectively
It is pouring rain so no good pictures but any direction to more specifically do a search would be appreciated.
Also to help with ID is there specific area of the blades or handles to take images of, the panang as I am calling it is almost certainly rhino horn
Thanks

Ken