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Gustav · 24th May 2012, 11:27 AM

And here some more "brothers".

At first one mentioned by BluErf here, in post #3:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=liongate

The sheath and pendokok are the same form, hilt a little more elaborate in carving, yet the similar style. There most probably is a trace of a sleeve covering the joint line between sampir and batang (similar sleeves are also found on Minang sheeths among others). BluErf attributed it to Sumatra back then.

Then there is a similar hilt form Dave Henkel posted here:

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000847.html

He wrote: "Another rare form. Sumatran most likely but God knows where. Still its very much a Bugis keris." Here I disagree, becouse Gonjo is not that of a common Bugis keris. It is completely straight and has signs of a small Tungkakan (as part of Greneng).

For comparison a Minangkabau Pangulu hilt. Here I should add, most probably Dan's hilt has lost much of its original surface with the time, also the Minangkabau hilt. They look well-worne, but one still sees traces of carvings on Dan's hilt.

24th May 2012, 11:27 AM	#27
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,196	And here some more "brothers". At first one mentioned by BluErf here, in post #3: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=liongate The sheath and pendokok are the same form, hilt a little more elaborate in carving, yet the similar style. There most probably is a trace of a sleeve covering the joint line between sampir and batang (similar sleeves are also found on Minang sheeths among others). BluErf attributed it to Sumatra back then. Then there is a similar hilt form Dave Henkel posted here: http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000847.html He wrote: "Another rare form. Sumatran most likely but God knows where. Still its very much a Bugis keris." Here I disagree, becouse Gonjo is not that of a common Bugis keris. It is completely straight and has signs of a small Tungkakan (as part of Greneng). For comparison a Minangkabau Pangulu hilt. Here I should add, most probably Dan's hilt has lost much of its original surface with the time, also the Minangkabau hilt. They look well-worne, but one still sees traces of carvings on Dan's hilt. Attached Images Last edited by Gustav; 24th May 2012 at 12:07 PM.