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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi
by spiral I meant the antique Yemini swords with flexible blades. As refered to by Eggerton quoted from of the Persian work by Jahanggir entitled Tuzuk I Jahanggir published around c.1600.{ later translated into English by Bill Thakston. 1999 }.
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Namaste Ibrahim!
If you re.read the above quote , I think it is clear my reference came from Eggerton... I to do not have a copy of W.Thakstons translation of the work.{nor the original
} Clearly Eggerton does.
On page 260 Hindu arms & Ritual... He states... "Jahingar in Tuzuk refers to a sword which "Flexed like a real Yemini or southern blade."
He references this from page.363 in Thackstons translation. {not the earlier translation work by which as you note is inaccurate by Beveridge..}
But if you allow me.....
linky
A bargain for you at less than $250.
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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi
They are likely to be unrelated...as 1600 was very early related to The Omani Dancing variant and indeed even the Omani Kattara. I would be interested to know what is recorded in the version you quote though I couldn't find it in my copy..
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mmm so despite not having read the work, & the fact the old Yemini world probably encompassed Oman, & the mention pre. dates your {changing.}concept of when flexible blades appeared in Oman . You still say there likely to be unrelated.... I personally suspect not!
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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi
In another note you place~
P.S. Glad you've added the Omani shamshir to your list, as I suggested .
Why would I not?... In fact the thread on the subject is started by me. See the Omani Shamshiir.
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Why Indeed... Your repley on the 16th of this month when I suggested you add it to your list was.
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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi
Is clearly imprecise since in Oman the Shamshiir was a badge of office reserved almost singly for Royalty / very important people.
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Which of course doesn't prevent it being a very lethal weapon.
Still at least you added it in the end.
Ok so know Ive provided the information you requested from me.
Perhaps you would be kind enough to answer my question above & provide the text you mentioned that you still haven't shown.?
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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi
" The only performance or dance of the Arabs is the sword dance, RAZHA, accompanied by an orchestra of drums while the performers armed with swords and Jambiyya and small shields of rhinoceros hide indulge in mimic contests; leaping about and weilding their swords in a truly marvellous way".
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Originally Posted by spiral
As interesting as Ingrams quote is, you forgot to post the quote that identifies your supposition & statement. ].
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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi
Ingram is careful to point out that Omanis or Manga as they were known... only danced with the straight Omani dancing sword. .
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Please now do so. {that is to prevent confusion... post the quote that identifies your supposition & statement. from Ingrams work, re. "only dancing with straight blades."} So that we can help move this thread through to the next step together, in the search for the truth about these swords.
Spiral