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Neo · 15th January 2011, 01:40 PM

The information I gather so far indicate that ancient (sepuh - Majapahit or before) hilt types are predominantly in the figural shapes. Well, at least the surviving ones.

Does this mean that simple, non-figural types similar to Nunggak Semi existed only after Demak or Mataram?

How about Bali's Bebondolan? As Bali keris culture is relatively separate from Java's post-Islamic development, is it possible that some sort of simple, non-figural type that is precursor to Nunggak Semi existed in the past? Could Bebondolan be the early version of Nunggak Semi?

On the other hand, are there indications that Bebondolan is the Balinese copy of Nunggak Semi - that Nunggak Semi is actually older?

15th January 2011, 01:40 PM	#1
Neo Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 59	Bebondolan VS Nunggak Semi: Which is older? The information I gather so far indicate that ancient (sepuh - Majapahit or before) hilt types are predominantly in the figural shapes. Well, at least the surviving ones. Does this mean that simple, non-figural types similar to Nunggak Semi existed only after Demak or Mataram? How about Bali's Bebondolan? As Bali keris culture is relatively separate from Java's post-Islamic development, is it possible that some sort of simple, non-figural type that is precursor to Nunggak Semi existed in the past? Could Bebondolan be the early version of Nunggak Semi? On the other hand, are there indications that Bebondolan is the Balinese copy of Nunggak Semi - that Nunggak Semi is actually older?