Both are likely to be Zeibek ones, from W. Anatolia, around Bursa. The first one has typical T-handle, the second one likely had them broken off, with only stumps remaining.
The second blade is typical Zeibek: heavy, simply concave ( not recurved) and with a T-spine. The first one may also be Zeibek, but a little strange: no T-spine. Happens.
And not, it is not a St. Irene stamp ( Kayi, old Oguz). Kayi looks like a trident.
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