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Old 30th May 2016, 04:07 AM   #31
A. G. Maisey
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Green, if you re-read what I have written in my previous post, I believe that you will find that I have said the same as you, but in different words.

The difference is almost exactly as you put it, it is a difference between the values and beliefs of Javanese Abangan and Court cultures, compared with the Islamic cultures of other areas, and in fact, there is some similarity between the Santri values and beliefs of Jawa, and the values and beliefs of these other areas.

Nobody, least of all I, is claiming that the keris does not have its own status in keris bearing cultures outside the Jawa/Bali nexus, only that the hard-core Javanese perspective is that these other keris are lacking the elements that make the Javanese keris what it is, and that the understanding of the keris outside Jawa is at variance with the traditional Javanese understanding.
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