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Lew · 5th June 2009, 05:04 AM

I really don't think these daggers are older than 1835-50 certainly not 1700s. I can't be sure but I think that the introduction of iron to the west coast tribes had to come after 1805 unless the Spanish traded with these tribes and taught them how to forge iron and steel weapons. Copper weapons yes but iron is much harder to forge and the fuller work looks very sophisticated to me. I will do some research and get back to you.

FIRST CONTACT WITH EUROPEANS
Europeans arrived in Tlingit country for the first time in 1741, when Russian explorer Aleksey Chirikov sent a boatload of men to land for water near the modern site of Sitka. When the group did not return for several days, he sent another boat of men to shore; they also did not return. Thereafter, contact with Tlingit people was limited until well into the 1800s.

The site stated that American involvement did not start until the 1860s and I am pretty sure that these daggers are from 1860s-90s.

5th June 2009, 05:04 AM	#16
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	I really don't think these daggers are older than 1835-50 certainly not 1700s. I can't be sure but I think that the introduction of iron to the west coast tribes had to come after 1805 unless the Spanish traded with these tribes and taught them how to forge iron and steel weapons. Copper weapons yes but iron is much harder to forge and the fuller work looks very sophisticated to me. I will do some research and get back to you. FIRST CONTACT WITH EUROPEANS Europeans arrived in Tlingit country for the first time in 1741, when Russian explorer Aleksey Chirikov sent a boatload of men to land for water near the modern site of Sitka. When the group did not return for several days, he sent another boat of men to shore; they also did not return. Thereafter, contact with Tlingit people was limited until well into the 1800s. The site stated that American involvement did not start until the 1860s and I am pretty sure that these daggers are from 1860s-90s. Last edited by LOUIEBLADES; 5th June 2009 at 05:19 AM.