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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey
Ferry, I know you to be quite knowledgeable in the field of keris, you have this keris in your hand, and your opinion is that it is early HB.
However, I would ask you to consider this:-
is it legitimate to give a kraton based tangguh to a keris that is obviously of far less than kraton quality?
is it possible to give a supportable opinion in respect of tangguh when we are dealing with a keris that lacks many of the indicators that we would normally use to establish an opinion?
is it possible that we are looking at a keris that might be able to be categorised as Kajoran, or perhaps Godean --- or maybe, just maybe, Palembang?
I myself am not prepared to offer an opinion on this keris, simply because it is far too difficult to form an opinion from just a photo. I cannot accurately appraise the pawakan, I have no idea at all of the tanting, I cannot feel the texture, I cannot see if the ganja is sebit ron or nguceng mati, I do not know the form of the sirah cecak---its just too hard from a photo, especially for a blade like this.
What I think I can see is what appears to be a fairly substantial blade with a sharply defined ada-ada running full length of the blade, no kruwingan, a square blumbangan, a ganja with a mid line curve, but a small and harsh tungkakan. This is sufficient to point my mind along a certain road, but at the end of that road there are a number of gateways. I do not know from the photos which one to choose.
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Hai Alan, I finally got your attention.
I define the tangguh to be early HB since its original warangka is a Jogjanese brangah. sorry I didnt include the warangka ini the picture.
I also understand its very hard to judge tangguh using photograph.
we must feel the surface, the tantingan, etc.
I try my best to provide these good pictures for us to discuss.
I rarely meet palembang keris. the last palembang keris I met is much much thicker with sharply defined ada-ada which is also running full lenght of the blade. using a kinatah gonjo, very beautiful keris ( a saw the keris 2 weeks ago) .
I hope this discussion would continue a bit longer. I really apreciate any opinion about this keris. I try my best to provide a decent keris to be discussed.
Hope that my Thread would become a usefull discussion material for all of us.
Thank you.
Ferrylaki