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nechesh · 5th February 2005, 01:44 AM

I am a little confused about the first two examples here. Are these hilts one piece with the blade like keris sajen are or are they seperate? Aside from these hilts the wilah look like a regular keris blade. Regardless of their origins these hilts do look interesting and if indeed the oldest examples of these keris is only 19thC as Empu Kumis suggests they still qualify as an ethnographic item worthy of study and collection.

Empu Kumis wrote: "I know and have seen with my own eyes this pieces are still forged as almost massproduction as other new kerisses too. Sometimes I read about to give them an appraisal for a special tangguh ? Just Nonsense !! The small shops still selling new keris sajen because many people belief in their value as talisman !!!"

But E.K., it is precisely that power of people's belief which makes an item a valid talisman.

5th February 2005, 01:44 AM	#10
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	I am a little confused about the first two examples here. Are these hilts one piece with the blade like keris sajen are or are they seperate? Aside from these hilts the wilah look like a regular keris blade. Regardless of their origins these hilts do look interesting and if indeed the oldest examples of these keris is only 19thC as Empu Kumis suggests they still qualify as an ethnographic item worthy of study and collection. Empu Kumis wrote: "I know and have seen with my own eyes this pieces are still forged as almost massproduction as other new kerisses too. Sometimes I read about to give them an appraisal for a special tangguh ? Just Nonsense !! The small shops still selling new keris sajen because many people belief in their value as talisman !!!" But E.K., it is precisely that power of people's belief which makes an item a valid talisman. Last edited by nechesh; 5th February 2005 at 03:01 AM.