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jagabuwana · 15th August 2022, 08:10 AM

Thanks Alan, I see now.

So if I'm following correctly, it seems that we can use the kebo or mahesa description for this keris. But it isn't strictly dhapur kebo lajer because it has luk.

Would this mean that this keris is "diluar pakem"* and doesn't have a dhapur designation, if we're going by the Surakarta dhapur manuscript?

*Diluar means "outside of".
I'm unsure of how to translate pakem as its Javanese, but the usage in this context would say that a pakem is something that is used as a source or reference - akin to a rulebook or a style guide.

15th August 2022, 08:10 AM	#7
jagabuwana Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 276	Thanks Alan, I see now. So if I'm following correctly, it seems that we can use the kebo or mahesa description for this keris. But it isn't strictly dhapur kebo lajer because it has luk. Would this mean that this keris is "diluar pakem"* and doesn't have a dhapur designation, if we're going by the Surakarta dhapur manuscript? *Diluar means "outside of". I'm unsure of how to translate pakem as its Javanese, but the usage in this context would say that a pakem is something that is used as a source or reference - akin to a rulebook or a style guide.