Perhaps David we should consider this to be 3 holes + 1 hole?
Oh goodness me I love this esoteric hypothesising.
Interestingly Harsrinuksmo, who was not at all shy about floating the odd hypothesis here and there did not say much at all in this regard about kudis and kujangs.
What he did say was that the people who might have known were long gone.
Something I personally find very interesting is that with the passing of time how much more previously unknown information becomes available for us to be astonished by.
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