all thanks for your comment,
I take the picture again, but now taken as discussed, and see if I have understood it correctly.
So the next time I place a picture, I hope it's good enough to be discussed.
Like Heinz i'm also relatively new and a "uninformed" keris collector and we always want to learn and increase our knowledge if possible
and in my opinion that is what counts, to learn from others what yourself do not know, or put in the right direction