Eric, thanks for being the archivist with these past links and this last one is also very good and appropriate to our discussion. It does, however, bring up a big pet peeve of mine. Please, PLEASE, when you have photos of examples, PLEASE....upload them to THIS site. All the links in this thread no longer exist so we are not able to see the blades of these Banjarmasin keris, only the hilts that got posted on the actual forum. I guess kampungnet is no more. Photos also get removed after time from servers like photobucket or whatever you use. Our archives can be a vital resource for future resource, but we have to ensure that the images connected to these discussions remain accessible. Hopeful, like diamonds, the Warung is forever.