Hi Shadye78:
I think these are certainly tools, more likely for the garden than the kitchen. While each could be used effectively as a weapon, I don't believe that was their primary purpose.
The blade profile of the lower one is similar to a type of Thai utility Knife, while the fat-bellied chopper could be from many different places. The hilts don't strike me as being specifically Asian or SE Asian--again, they could be from many places.
I have enlarged your pictures of the blade marks but I cannot identify them. They are not Chinese or Kangi IMHO.
Ian
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