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Old 15th October 2021, 11:40 PM   #14
Jim McDougall
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As Ausjulius has pointed out, it appears that the example in the original post, which was a European yataghan type hanger from a 2012 thread (Longfellow) does appear to have its style derived from Ottoman/Persian influence. The top photo is the one from the thread in 2012.

In rechecking "Catalogue de la Collection d'Armes Anciennes de Charles Buttin",
,1933 (1996 repr.) examples (pl.VIII, 26,217,218) are clearly similar to virtually identical to this with finger stalls, karabela style pommel, yataghan blades, and the traditional downturned quillons w/dragon head terminals.

These three examples are all attributed to the Pandour forces of Baron Franz von Trenck (1711-1749) who were irregular troops for the Austrian army under Maria Theresa.

In 2008, one of these from the Buttin collection was sold (I mistakenly thought it was von Trenck's himself but it was one of his troops). It is noted, and the information was from the Buttin family I believe, that only four examples are known to exist of these yataghan hangers.

The VIII plate from Buttin shows the three examples of 'pandour' yataghan hangers with this same style hilt.
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