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A. G. Maisey · 1st January 2023, 01:18 AM

Gustav, I keep on telling you that you see things differently to the elite keris authorities of Central Jawa, and to me (but I am no Elite), but I have not yet explained how different.

Here is a short list of major indicators that we bring into consideration when trying to determine the classification of a keris blade.

Under each of these heads there are characteristics that can be representative of characteristics found in each established tangguh. I am not going to name these characteristics, nor attempt to explain them, the words & concepts are mostly Javanese and we need to adopt a Javanese frame of reference to achieve entry level understanding, usable understanding can only be achieved through personal tuition on a face to face basis and with access to good examples.

These days there is a multitude of tangguhs, and a lot of these have appeared over the last 30 or so years, they would not all have been recognised as legitimate, in Solo, during the 1980's.

Here I also provide a short list of major, recognised tangguh classifications.

Major Tangguh Classification Indicators as used by Empu Suparman Supowijoyo

Tanting
Besi
Pamor
Baja
Pawakan
Gonjo
Gandhik
Blumbangan
Sogokan
Ada-ada (odo-odo)
Kruwingan
Eluk-lukan
Wadidang

Major Tangguh Classifications as used by Empu Suparman Supowijoyo
Accepted as Javanese
Jenggolo
Pajajaran I
Pajajaran II
Mojopahit
Kahuripan
Pengging
Segaluh
Tuban
Pajang
Mataram Senopati
Mataram Sultan Agung
Tuban Mataram/Pajajaran/Mojopahit
Kartosuro
Surakarta
Koripan
Godean

Accepted as outside Jawa
Madura
Kupang
Bugis

It is important to note that these classification names cannot necessarily be understood in a way that the name itself would seem to indicate, classifications can refer to era, or geographic location, or society, or culture there are other un-named classifications.
Tangguh classification should be understood as the name of a classification only, other meanings should not be read into the name in the absence of expert guidance.

1st January 2023, 01:18 AM	#26
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,700	Gustav, I keep on telling you that you see things differently to the elite keris authorities of Central Jawa, and to me (but I am no Elite), but I have not yet explained how different. Here is a short list of major indicators that we bring into consideration when trying to determine the classification of a keris blade. Under each of these heads there are characteristics that can be representative of characteristics found in each established tangguh. I am not going to name these characteristics, nor attempt to explain them, the words & concepts are mostly Javanese and we need to adopt a Javanese frame of reference to achieve entry level understanding, usable understanding can only be achieved through personal tuition on a face to face basis and with access to good examples. These days there is a multitude of tangguhs, and a lot of these have appeared over the last 30 or so years, they would not all have been recognised as legitimate, in Solo, during the 1980's. Here I also provide a short list of major, recognised tangguh classifications. Major Tangguh Classification Indicators as used by Empu Suparman Supowijoyo Tanting Besi Pamor Baja Pawakan Gonjo Gandhik Blumbangan Sogokan Ada-ada (odo-odo) Kruwingan Eluk-lukan Wadidang Major Tangguh Classifications as used by Empu Suparman Supowijoyo Accepted as Javanese Jenggolo Pajajaran I Pajajaran II Mojopahit Kahuripan Pengging Segaluh Tuban Pajang Mataram Senopati Mataram Sultan Agung Tuban Mataram/Pajajaran/Mojopahit Kartosuro Surakarta Koripan Godean Accepted as outside Jawa Madura Kupang Bugis It is important to note that these classification names cannot necessarily be understood in a way that the name itself would seem to indicate, classifications can refer to era, or geographic location, or society, or culture there are other un-named classifications. Tangguh classification should be understood as the name of a classification only, other meanings should not be read into the name in the absence of expert guidance.