I should have known....
For years I asked the PI cabal to give us a crash course on the multitude of names they so casually throw around; to no avail, of course.
Now, the Kukri-ists announce that their objects are also not definable: Sirupate = siru leaf.
Well, boys, let me tell you, down here in Michigan Siru leaves are rarer that hen's teeth. Potatoes, onions, corn.. we have those. Tomatoes from Mexico, Dole pineapples ( canned, mostly). Ladies from Kalamazoo blushed when Meijer supermarker started selling daikon. Grapes, strawberries and kiwis are all equally green and can be distinguished by their form, but not the taste.
Siru leaves..... Have you ever seen a belt without an irresistible urge to hit below it?
