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fernando · 19th October 2017, 04:06 PM

Old 6th August 2016, 07:58 PM #297

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Jim McDougall
EAA Research Consultant

Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Route 66

Well caught Ulfberht!!
That looks exactly like what this is. It of course begs the question, why was this cut down? While we know that Scottish sword hilts were often cut down to become dirks. In India of course, the well known instances and practice of cutting down European blades to be used in katars are legion.

In Africa, French cavalry blades were constantly the fodder for the native swords of Mali, and others. By the same token French bayonets became well used as s'boula and other dagger forms.

But in Europe, blades being repurposed in these manners seems atypical, so could this have been an ethnographically repurposed at some time, then at some point, the hilt removed or come apart?

Finding that cartouche is of interest also, and seems familiar, perhaps Bezdek et al ?
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19th October 2017, 04:06 PM	#268
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,634	Old 6th August 2016, 07:58 PM #297 Posted by: Jim McDougall EAA Research Consultant Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Well caught Ulfberht!! That looks exactly like what this is. It of course begs the question, why was this cut down? While we know that Scottish sword hilts were often cut down to become dirks. In India of course, the well known instances and practice of cutting down European blades to be used in katars are legion. In Africa, French cavalry blades were constantly the fodder for the native swords of Mali, and others. By the same token French bayonets became well used as s'boula and other dagger forms. But in Europe, blades being repurposed in these manners seems atypical, so could this have been an ethnographically repurposed at some time, then at some point, the hilt removed or come apart? Finding that cartouche is of interest also, and seems familiar, perhaps Bezdek et al ? . Last edited by fernando; 20th October 2017 at 05:04 PM.