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fernando · 19th October 2017, 03:50 PM

Old 15th May 2015, 02:21 PM #265

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Originally Posted by Jim McDougall
Thank you for the note on the marking we were discussing Fernando.....the ANCHOR! That would make sense, and the flayed arms on the base does correspond to the shape of anchors in a sense. Since there is a relation to these and merchant marks used often used by traders, it adds to the plausibility of the term. I was incorrect in my comment on this not appearing on blades considered associated with Ayala, in retrospect it seems I do recall seeing something like that on the JESUS MARIA blade I mentioned. The blade had been recovered from a shipwreck in a large grouping of blades that were apparantly being sent to Spain's colonies, and was in pretty rough condition. In close up's I do recall seeing the mark though. (Quote)

Jim, this recent article in National Geographic has me looking for the posts where you mention blades from shipwrecks off the coast of Panama.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...an-archaeology/

"The cargo ship went down in 1681 with crates of swords, nails, and bolts of cloth."
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19th October 2017, 03:50 PM	#236
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,641	Old 15th May 2015, 02:21 PM #265 Posted by: dana_w Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Southeast Florida, USA Originally Posted by Jim McDougall Thank you for the note on the marking we were discussing Fernando.....the ANCHOR! That would make sense, and the flayed arms on the base does correspond to the shape of anchors in a sense. Since there is a relation to these and merchant marks used often used by traders, it adds to the plausibility of the term. I was incorrect in my comment on this not appearing on blades considered associated with Ayala, in retrospect it seems I do recall seeing something like that on the JESUS MARIA blade I mentioned. The blade had been recovered from a shipwreck in a large grouping of blades that were apparantly being sent to Spain's colonies, and was in pretty rough condition. In close up's I do recall seeing the mark though. (Quote) Jim, this recent article in National Geographic has me looking for the posts where you mention blades from shipwrecks off the coast of Panama. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...an-archaeology/ "The cargo ship went down in 1681 with crates of swords, nails, and bolts of cloth." . Last edited by fernando; 20th October 2017 at 04:23 PM.