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Old 15th July 2014, 01:38 PM   #3
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Thanks Alan,

I am a bit surprised that it is of recent (?) origin based on its supposed provenance.
Could you please develop the main points of evidence for it being Maduran?

Anyway, if it is an innovation it explains why I had a hard time to find the pamor.

Michael
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