Hi Mark. I don't want a to start a debate or a flame war either, but i do think that Pusaka does owns us an explanation. Not only are entire passages lifted from this forum without permission and presented as his own, but then they are combined with his own misguided and false conclusions that are antithetical to the meaning and spirit of the original lifted posts. Mick"s Balinese keris is presented as an example of a keris made from modern steel and pure nickel that is then dyed black. Now you know why i never post examples of my collection on line.