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A. G. Maisey · 12th June 2012, 01:53 PM

Please note what I have said:-

"based upon what I can see in these photos"

what I can see are a number of indicators that point towards a recently made blade, however, photographs can be misleading, if I handled this keris I might change my mind, but I don't think so.

However, when we classify a keris as "Mataram", that by itself is insufficient, because Mataram refers to the dominant style of the keris, for example Empu Pauzan Pusposukadgo is a current era maker who stopped working about 12 or 15 years ago, and he made many Mataram style keris, which if we classify correctly are Mataram Kemardikan.

So, if we want to classify this keris as "Mataram" we need to designate the classification correctly. Is it Mataram Senopaten? Sultan Agung? Matesih? Or is it some other sub-division of Mataram?

I would most humbly suggest that the people who have given an opinion that it is a Mataram keris complete that opinion by naming the type of Mataram keris that it is, and the indicators that make it so.

12th June 2012, 01:53 PM	#16
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,701	Please note what I have said:- "based upon what I can see in these photos" what I can see are a number of indicators that point towards a recently made blade, however, photographs can be misleading, if I handled this keris I might change my mind, but I don't think so. However, when we classify a keris as "Mataram", that by itself is insufficient, because Mataram refers to the dominant style of the keris, for example Empu Pauzan Pusposukadgo is a current era maker who stopped working about 12 or 15 years ago, and he made many Mataram style keris, which if we classify correctly are Mataram Kemardikan. So, if we want to classify this keris as "Mataram" we need to designate the classification correctly. Is it Mataram Senopaten? Sultan Agung? Matesih? Or is it some other sub-division of Mataram? I would most humbly suggest that the people who have given an opinion that it is a Mataram keris complete that opinion by naming the type of Mataram keris that it is, and the indicators that make it so.