I believe you're correct on the first one .
The second one is Sumatran, and the blade is kind of interesting, 3 waves .
Both these blades are better judged when viewed point upwards with the wide part of the gangya to the right .
Both are in need of the dress part below the handle; in the case of the E.Java/madura a mendak is needed; the Sumatran needs a selut (cup with stem) .
I don't mean to crack wise here, Ariel, but they are both worth whatever someone is willing to pay and you to accept .
Neither are 'treasures' monetarily .
They both have a certain rough charm; I'm sure that's why you acquired them .