Ethnographic Arms & Armour - View Single Post - My Christmas sword, Mameluk of the Imperial Guard

corrado26 · 2nd January 2019, 07:44 AM

I have doubts if the blade of the sabre shown with the motto "Pro deo et Patria" is a French one.
During the revolution of 1789 until 1804 all symbols of christianity have been destroyed and over that and to emphasize this a new revolutionary calender has been introduced. So a sword made during this time by Boutet in Versailles in France cannot have a motto like the one on this blade. It is absolutely unthinkable. In my opinion the "Pro Deo et Patria" is a typically German or Austrian one, so the blade of this mamelucke sword might have been made at Solingen!
A further reason why I doubt that this blade was the blade of an original mameluck sword: Why should a moslem, and mamelucks have been moslems throughout, should have used a blade with such a motto. In case the blade has been a lute of war then the sword isn't an original!!
corrado26

2nd January 2019, 07:44 AM	#7
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,167	I have doubts if the blade of the sabre shown with the motto "Pro deo et Patria" is a French one. During the revolution of 1789 until 1804 all symbols of christianity have been destroyed and over that and to emphasize this a new revolutionary calender has been introduced. So a sword made during this time by Boutet in Versailles in France cannot have a motto like the one on this blade. It is absolutely unthinkable. In my opinion the "Pro Deo et Patria" is a typically German or Austrian one, so the blade of this mamelucke sword might have been made at Solingen! A further reason why I doubt that this blade was the blade of an original mameluck sword: Why should a moslem, and mamelucks have been moslems throughout, should have used a blade with such a motto. In case the blade has been a lute of war then the sword isn't an original!! corrado26 Last edited by corrado26; 2nd January 2019 at 01:41 PM.