Hello Detlef,
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both show good signs of age and wear and would place them to the first half of the 20th century.
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From the pics, the hilt carving of #2 seems to be of somewhat better quality and I'd also consider an earlier date for this sword. The round scabbard foot including the sun motif looks fairly roughly carved though. Please keep up posted if other specialists have been able to examine both pieces.
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Both swords has also very similar carvings on the top of the foot
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Yes, these oval "windows" cut into the angular intermediate carving (itself a very unusual feature) are an interesting detail! Any remnants of lime paste or even inlay, etc.?
Regards,
Kai