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Old 14th September 2015, 10:45 PM   #4
kronckew
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yup. older ones had no belt loop. they were shoved in their sash belt. some had a leather thong thing with a button end and a loop end you could tie around your sash to keep it from falling out. see attached, scabbard has the full tool kit of files, scrapers, pricks, button hooks, etc. as well as the chackmak and karda.

note the smoothly curved spine without the sudden bend at the end of the sword of shiva (the double line decoration near the spine ending in a point) you find on most more modern ones...and the grips were much shorter.
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