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Originally Posted by Amuk Murugul

Hullo everybody!

Hmmmmm ..... a bit like the chicken and the egg.
Boils down to belief, I suppose (pardon the pun).
I personally have no problem with it; all seems in order.
However, in your case, perhaps you need to view it from the movements of people in the past.
A good example would be to study three individuals in particular: Arung Pallaka, Kapiten Jonker and Cornelis Janszoon Speelman.
Then may you find an answer of some satisfaction to you.

Best,

Hello Amuk,

please can you explain a little bit more precise? And what do you think from where this shown examples orginate?

Thank you in advance,

Detlef