What has appeared above as Post#13 was intended to be added to my original comment, which has now disappeared.
Sorry, but I've already used too much time on this.
I'm out.
EDIT
Thanks Gustav, I just threw "kastane": into the search function and it is clear there is a lot of discussion on it, I do not have time to look at this, if I was interested I would, but I'm not interested in things that use a lot of time and do not contribute towards achievement of current objectives.
My apologies for my audit world view.
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