Well they certainly are recent fakes. The one on the left is indeed pattern welded, but it is low quality work. My guess is that both of them weigh more than 1K have very soft steel, and are balanced too far toward the tip. There can also be issues with the tang being separately welded, but thankfully that is rare. If you use them for practice, they probably wont just come apart and send the blade spinning, but you never know. If you practice with these occasionally they will make you strong, but so would using a crowbar, and it might be safer. If you practice with these regularly they will begin to distort your movement. Once you find a genuine jian you will never want to look at these again.
Keep an eye on the swap forum. I will be posting an antique willow leaf saber soon.
Josh
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