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tom hyle · 25th June 2010, 07:33 PM

I see an awful lot of kris sundang and barong with both types of cockatoo and with hoof handles. There seems no division as to blade, other than re asangs/bacas/clamps. The true cockatoo as I call it is also not only Moro, but is seen in other cultures of the region, notably Visayan. The hoof type handle is even more widely distributed. Of course a Visayan one or a Batangas one (for instance) can be identified from a Moro one, but they are still clearly hoof and cockatoo handles. Unlike the "fully developed cockatoo" which seems to be modelled on the sex organ of a plant (it has no beak, it has no cheeks, it has no eyes, it is widest at the top). IMHO this relates to Japanese plant-based heraldry, for instance.

25th June 2010, 07:33 PM	#20
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	I see an awful lot of kris sundang and barong with both types of cockatoo and with hoof handles. There seems no division as to blade, other than re asangs/bacas/clamps. The true cockatoo as I call it is also not only Moro, but is seen in other cultures of the region, notably Visayan. The hoof type handle is even more widely distributed. Of course a Visayan one or a Batangas one (for instance) can be identified from a Moro one, but they are still clearly hoof and cockatoo handles. Unlike the "fully developed cockatoo" which seems to be modelled on the sex organ of a plant (it has no beak, it has no cheeks, it has no eyes, it is widest at the top). IMHO this relates to Japanese plant-based heraldry, for instance.