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Old 18th September 2008, 03:49 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by Jim McDougall
I'm surprised there arent more responses on this Atlantia. I'd like to see more of these posted as well, and it seems there has been no shortage of response with examples in the ethnographic department.

I think that what is being missed is that while these are typically viewed as from either Albacete, or it seems also associated with Canary Islands, they also appear to have much earlier European ancestry. These cutlery items are shown in "Wallace Collection Catalogues: European Arms & Armour", Sir James Mann, 1962.....A888, 881,880, mostly in the overall profile especially the position of the haft, noting the utility function. These all seem to derive from Portugal, Spain and Italy in the general profile with a variety of other examples that are of course not that similar.

Nice example, and I'd like to know more on the attribution of this one.

All best regards,
Jim

Hi Jim,
thanks for your input on this one, I was begining to think I'd been sent to Coventry! ;-)
Seeing a reply was almost a 'WOW' SETI moment for me, lol.

I think you've certainly got a point, and I've completely ignored these knives over the years, despite a passion for European arms.
They are a bit of an anachronism, a cutlery shaped fancy butchers knife. No clipped point/drop point for hunting or skinning (Yuk, thankfully), they do seem to be a fighting knife or dagger. Quite an archaic shape despite their late date, and alltogether a little too asymetic with no guard etc.
I bought this one on spec really. partly out of a liking for the seller and not wanting to have wasted his time going to view it. I thought it looked familiar, but I was thinking eastern Europe or North Africa, and early 20thC.

I've actually had quite a few Navajas over the years, but always traded them, well it's a penknife! ;-)
But this time I find I've really fallen in love with this dagger, and want to compare it with other examples.
I've googled it to the N'th degree and only found one close example.


So you can see the scabbard tip? I could make a replacement with a few more to get 'feel' from!

Regards
Gene

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