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VANDOO · 13th January 2007, 10:35 PM

I THINK WE ALL TEND TO THINK OF ETHINOGRAPHIC AS REFERING TO PRIMATIVE SIMPLE SOCIETYS OF TODAY OR IN THE PAST. IN FACT ALL SOCIETYS ARE ETHINOGRAPHIC REGARDLESS OF HOW ADVANCED OR PRIMATIVE THEY ARE. THERE ARE ALWAYS DIFFERENCES IN BELIEFS,TRADITIONS AND CRAFTS FROM ONE GROUP TO ANOTHER . MANKIND AND SOCIETY ARE NOT UNIFORM ALL OVER THE WORLD AND CHANGES WITH TIME AND TECKNOLOGY, BUT IS STILL ETHINOGRAPHIC IN MANY WAYS.

I PERSONALLY PREFER THE ITEMS FROM TIMES AND SOCIETYS NEARER THE TRIBAL DAYS. BUT WHAT OF THE KERIS OR KRIS AS WELL AS MANY OTHER WEAPONS YOU CAN'T CLASSIFY THOSE EARLY CIVILAZATIONS AS TRIBAL.

I THINK THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS NOT THE PLACE,TIME OR SOCIETY BUT THE TECKNOLOGY USED AND THE WAY IT HAS BEEN MADE. WHEN A LARGE MODERN FACTORY TURNS OUT A SUPPLY OF THOUSANDS OF SWORDS TO SUPPLY A MODERN ARMY WE SAY THATS NOT ETHINOGRAPHIC BUT MILITARY. SO AMERICAN ARMY SWORDS WOULD BE MILITARY ,HOWEVER SPEARS COULD BE MADE FOR A MUCH LARGER GROUP OF ZULU ALL TO THE SAME SPEC'S BUT BY SEVERAL FORGES USING MORE PRIMATIVE METHODS AND WOULD BE CALLED ETHINOGRAPHIC.

ITS A MATTER OF PERSPECTIVE AND WE MIGHT FEEL INSULTED IF A COLLECTOR OF MILITARY BLADES CALLED OUR COLLECTION MILITARY AND HE WOULD NO DOUBT ARGUE IF I CALLED HIS COLLECTION ETHINOGRAPHIC.

OUR FORUM WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE EVERYTHING AND EVEN IF IT COULD IT WOULD JUST TAKE TOO MUCH TIME TO GO THRU ALL THE POSTS. SO IT IS BEST TO STAY LARGELY TO OUR TYPES OF INTREST TO KEEP THINGS FROM GETTING OVERLOADED OR BOGGED DOWN. THERE ARE NO DOUBT FORUMS SOMEWHERE FOR MOST INTRESTS AND IT IS BEST TO KEEP THINGS SEPARATED. ITS KIND OF LIKE HAVING FOLDERS WITH LIKE THINGS IN THEM FOR EASE OF USE VERSES A BIG PILE WITH EVERYTHING IN IT WHERE NOTHING CAN BE EASILY FOUND.

13th January 2007, 10:35 PM	#18
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I THINK WE ALL TEND TO THINK OF ETHINOGRAPHIC AS REFERING TO PRIMATIVE SIMPLE SOCIETYS OF TODAY OR IN THE PAST. IN FACT ALL SOCIETYS ARE ETHINOGRAPHIC REGARDLESS OF HOW ADVANCED OR PRIMATIVE THEY ARE. THERE ARE ALWAYS DIFFERENCES IN BELIEFS,TRADITIONS AND CRAFTS FROM ONE GROUP TO ANOTHER . MANKIND AND SOCIETY ARE NOT UNIFORM ALL OVER THE WORLD AND CHANGES WITH TIME AND TECKNOLOGY, BUT IS STILL ETHINOGRAPHIC IN MANY WAYS. I PERSONALLY PREFER THE ITEMS FROM TIMES AND SOCIETYS NEARER THE TRIBAL DAYS. BUT WHAT OF THE KERIS OR KRIS AS WELL AS MANY OTHER WEAPONS YOU CAN'T CLASSIFY THOSE EARLY CIVILAZATIONS AS TRIBAL. I THINK THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS NOT THE PLACE,TIME OR SOCIETY BUT THE TECKNOLOGY USED AND THE WAY IT HAS BEEN MADE. WHEN A LARGE MODERN FACTORY TURNS OUT A SUPPLY OF THOUSANDS OF SWORDS TO SUPPLY A MODERN ARMY WE SAY THATS NOT ETHINOGRAPHIC BUT MILITARY. SO AMERICAN ARMY SWORDS WOULD BE MILITARY ,HOWEVER SPEARS COULD BE MADE FOR A MUCH LARGER GROUP OF ZULU ALL TO THE SAME SPEC'S BUT BY SEVERAL FORGES USING MORE PRIMATIVE METHODS AND WOULD BE CALLED ETHINOGRAPHIC. ITS A MATTER OF PERSPECTIVE AND WE MIGHT FEEL INSULTED IF A COLLECTOR OF MILITARY BLADES CALLED OUR COLLECTION MILITARY AND HE WOULD NO DOUBT ARGUE IF I CALLED HIS COLLECTION ETHINOGRAPHIC. OUR FORUM WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE EVERYTHING AND EVEN IF IT COULD IT WOULD JUST TAKE TOO MUCH TIME TO GO THRU ALL THE POSTS. SO IT IS BEST TO STAY LARGELY TO OUR TYPES OF INTREST TO KEEP THINGS FROM GETTING OVERLOADED OR BOGGED DOWN. THERE ARE NO DOUBT FORUMS SOMEWHERE FOR MOST INTRESTS AND IT IS BEST TO KEEP THINGS SEPARATED. ITS KIND OF LIKE HAVING FOLDERS WITH LIKE THINGS IN THEM FOR EASE OF USE VERSES A BIG PILE WITH EVERYTHING IN IT WHERE NOTHING CAN BE EASILY FOUND.