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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi
Salaams Forum...All....It has come to my notice that certain facts delivered here by me have come into question and whilst naturally in the course of polite interchange and scholastic manouvring I quite accept that certain points may come as a surprise or that obscure references not always available to everyone (though all the references in this regard are) may seem incredulous but references they are and in the case of Wh Ingrams they are immaculately recorded in his diaries... and in a book he had published called Zanzibar and Its Peoples in 1931. ( I beklieve it was first done in 1927 according to another source...at the base of this list viz;
On the British
period in Zanzibar
and East Africa, and the
precceding period of Bü Safiıdı rule,
see for example L.W.
Hollingsworth,
Zanzibar under
the Foreign Office 1890-1913
, London,
1953, N.R.Bennet,
A History of the Arab State of
Zanzibar
, London,
1978,
M.L.Lofchie,
Zanzibar. Background to Revolution
, Princeton Univ.
Press, 1965. See also the
accounts given by R.N.Lyne,
Zanzibar in
Contemporary Times
, Hurst&Blackett, London,
1905,
and W.H.
Ingrams,
Zanzibar. Its History and its Peoples
, London, 1927
I go into some detail about this author and his vast experience in "Kattara for comments" though he is also important since his involvement in the music and dance of the region was indeed a speciality and further he was a historian and much involved in the Zanzibar Museum structuring...from the outset. It is in his coverage of Music Songs and Dances in Chapter 39 page 399 if my memory serves me well that he outlines the details current to the discussion others have brought to this table.
Some offence appears to have developed (though I cannot see why) in his statement on those pages of his 1931 masterwork which stated Quote" Here is an important passage from W. H. INGRAMS who was an official advisor to the British governor and unusually advisor to the Sultan of Zanzibar variously from about 1919 (published in 1931) in which he describes~
Quote" The only performance or dance of the Arabs is the sword dance, RAZHA, accompanied by an orchestra of drums while the performers armed with swords and Jambiyya and small shields of rhinoceros hide indulge in mimic contests. leaping about and weilding their swords in a truly marvellous way".Unquote.
This was not a Zanzibari dance. W. H. Ingrams goes on to explain that this was only carried out by the Manga (those born in Muscat) not those Mwarcha (those born in Zanzibar).
I vouch for the fact that this was not a Zanzibari dance because it is part of the Funun practiced in Oman and in that sword spectacle The Razha the dancing sword is used with the Terrs Shield. The Sword blade being flat spatulate tipped, round ended, sharp on both edges and Flexible mounted with a long Omani Hilt.
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.
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Well that makes the water Muddier but just feature more untruths. Disguised within a list of references.
I have great respect for W. Ingrams work About Zanzibar. Its not his statements or words I doubt....
You mention Chapter 39 pages 399
chapter 37 starts on page 399
it covers music & dance as you say.
No mention of swords is made. None... Never mind your fictitious quote..
Chapter 38 on page 411 continues about music & dance.
No mention of swords is made. None... Never mind your fictitious quote..
{Although it does mention a song sang by the genital mutilator while sharpening his knife. "to frighten"}
Chapter 39 is about nature & starts on page. 423.
If you say your not making up falsehoods & lies.
Then please supply the necessary quote about your statement..
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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi
Ingram is careful to point out that Omanis or Manga as they were known... only danced with the straight Omani dancing sword.
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Because the truth is, Its not true. Its not in the book
You made it up. It is a lie.
Ingram never said it.
Spiral