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Originally Posted by Matchlock
Hi Cornelis,
My friend thinks that your item is a Netherlandish sword (Haudegen) of about 1620, early Thirty Years' War.
I can hardly really differentiate betwen those types, except that the riveted point on the pommel is much larger on later pieces.
best,
Michael
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Hi Michael,
thanks for the reply.
I'm extremely sorry to say but I think your friend is wrong.
there seems to be some similarity (hilt type and pierced pommel) but when you have closer look at both of them.they are totally different swords from different periods and for different fighting techniques.
it is not Netherlandish and also definitely not a Hauwdegen
I had a few Dutch Houwers in my collection. see pic.
A houwdegen was used by foot soldiers who had limited figthing skills
therefor the houwers have very simple, blunt and wide broad blades (without fullers) and were mainly used for striking blows and with blunt points not for stabbing.
The hilt of the houwer is originally Italian design and were exported in large numbers to various countries including the Netherlands.The hilts had pommels of Norman type 46 (1600-1630) and did not have inner guards and/or thumb rings.
my Sword has a 16thC cut and thrusting blade a 16thC pommel type and a
16thC inner guard type.
The Specialists of HermannH dated it end of 16thC and Italian/steyerish .
Personally I think it is a bit earlier but due to the thumb ring around 1560-1570.
(The earliest thumb ring on a painting known is from 1577)
Pommelknob?!?
the type of big round pommelknob was in fashion in Italy mid 16thC.
CF pictures of wallace A537 and wallace A551 both dated 1550.
and of course as on the Pavia painting
best regards from Holland